Brian Kalen Gets Cooked on Jesse Lee Peterson's Show

Brian Kalen appeared on Jesse Lee Peterson's 'The Fallen State' and was immediately called 'beta' for having a girl as his first child, then got led into uncomfortable racial territory he couldn't riff his way out of.

Brian Kalen's appearance on Jesse Lee Peterson's show 'The Fallen State' became a spectacle of discomfort as JLP immediately hit Brian with his signature gotcha style. When Brian revealed his first child was a girl, JLP instantly declared him 'beta,' saying 'real man made boys first.' Brian was visibly caught off guard, later recounting to the hosts: 'You see how he leads me into deep water? He's trying to lead me into deep water. Now I'm a beta.' Things escalated when JLP made bizarre comments about 'black people made babies out of wet' and asked Brian 'what's wrong with the blacks?' Brian attempted a diplomatic response about Black contributions to American culture — 'We wouldn't have rock and roll. We wouldn't have our highest art form, jazz' — which the hosts found painfully inadequate. One host observed, 'Brian, you're not winning anyone over.' The hosts noted that Brian 'never seems to' understand what he's getting himself into wherever he goes, and criticized his inability to riff or push back against JLP's absurdity. 'You would think that Brian would be able to roll with this and have a little bit of fun with it,' one host said, while another quipped, 'Well, Brian cannot riff with us.'