Jay Dyer Calls Misfit Patriot a Heretic Over Catholic-Zionist Claims
Jay Dyer confronted Misfit Patriot for claiming to be both Catholic and Zionist, telling him 'you are a heretic according to the Catholic Church' for teaching that the nation of Israel has a covenant still enforced.
A heated theological debate erupted when Misfit Patriot, described by the host as 'the Glass Joe of Israel debates,' attempted to claim that being both Catholic and Zionist are compatible positions. Jay Dyer, who the host identifies as a Catholic debater, directly confronted Misfit Patriot, stating: 'according to Roman Catholic doctrine, you are a heretic if you teach that the nation of Israel has a covenant that's still enforced.' Dyer cited the Council of Florence as explicitly supporting his position. The host strongly backed Dyer's argument, explaining that Catholicism—particularly post-Vatican II—teaches that the Abrahamic covenant was fulfilled by Jesus Christ and that the 'new and everlasting covenant' is the one currently in force. 'Catholic and Zionist does not work,' the host declared. 'The church does not endorse Zionism.' The host further argued that anyone believing in the Abrahamic covenant and a kingdom of Israel is effectively Jewish, not Christian: 'If you believe God's covenant says that there should be a kingdom of Israel, you're a Jew. You're not a Christian.' When Misfit Patriot attempted to defend himself by claiming his priest at St. Henry's is a Zionist, Dyer flatly rejected the claim: 'No, he's not. Your priest is not a Zionist. If they are, they're outside of the church's teaching.' The segment also briefly touched on Andrew Wilson's discomfort with evidence regarding Tyler Robinson and Stu Peters' reluctance to discuss 'Fort Wuka,' with the host not